(6) Not eligible for Title. The following are not eligible for a Texas Title regardless of the vehicles previous title/or registration in this or any jurisdiction.
(A) Vehicles that are missing or stripped of their motor, frame, or body, to the point that it materially alters the manufacturer’s original design or makes the vehicle unsafe for on-road operation as determined by the department.
(B) Vehicles designed or determined by the department to be a Dune Buggy.
Additionally, Transportation Code 502.048 allows the department to refuse registration to any motor vehicle the department determines to be unsafe, improperly equipped, or otherwise unfit to be operated on a [public highway.
We are up and running, Our bill has now been introduced in both the Texas State House as well as the Senate!
You can google them.
86(R) HB-1755 Representative Thompson District 29
86(R) SB-1462 Senator Hughes District 1
This is an
example of what was used to talk to Legislators about Assembled Vehicles.
This was posted in hopes that it will help get into more detail of the bill
that has been introduced, you can research the actual rule by googling.
86(R) HB-1755 Representative Thompson District 29
86(R) SB-1462 Senator Hughes District 1
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1. What is the purpose of the proposed legislation?
legislation is to create a new section of the Texas Transportation Code that
defines Assembled Vehicles and how these vehicles would be regulated by the
Texas Department of Motor Vehicles. The new section of the Transportation
Code will provide definitions of Dune Buggies, Sandrail & Kitcars to ALL be
defined as Assembled Vehicles, to describe and define the legal ability for a
hobbyist to assemble the vehicle, the definition and methodology to have the
vehicle legally inspected by a certified state inspector, the method by which
the vehicle is tiled and registered, and the appropriate fees that accompany
titles and fees for Assembled Vehicles.
2. What is the issue being addressed by this legislation?
The issue being addressed by the legislation is to provide clarity
in the law as to what is an Assembled Vehicle. Currently, an Assembled Vehicle
is defined only in the TxDMV manual, not in statute, yet there are state
inspection forms that accompany an Assembled Vehicle to be used for the ability
to gain a title, registration through the normal DMV/DPS process. As a
result of the lack of clarification, Kitcar companies and those customers that
assemble kitcars and Dune Buggies & Sandrails, that have had their vehicles
legally inspected, have received proper insurance, and have in many cases received
title and registration, have had their title and registration revoked by the
In addition and to further complicate the issue, staff at TxDMV in 2014 proposed an Administrative Rule to essentially ban Dune Buggies from operating on Texas streets and roadways by deeming them as “off-road” vehicles. As a consequence, numerous private citizens that purchased Dune Buggies after 2014 were not aware of the administrative rule and only realized their investment was essentially worthless when they were unable to gain title and registration to operate Dune Buggies on streets and roadways, as has been the practice for over 50 years. Ironically, if a citizen had already purchased a Dune Buggy prior to the Administrative Rule and had the vehicle legally inspected, titled, and registered those vehicles remain legal to operate on streets and roadways.
And while Kitcars are not Dune Buggies but still in the Assembled
Vehicle class and have not been subject to an Administrative Rule banning their
operations, staff at the TxDMV have subjectively deemed some Kitcars as “on
track” vehicles, essentially race cars, and therefore deemed illegal to operate
on streets and roadways.
The rulings by the TxDMV is inconsistent and has caused great
confusion among Dune Buggy, Sandrail and Kitcar enthusiasts and parts suppliers
of those vehicles to a point where the TxDMV board announced in its August 16,
2018 board meeting that this matter is best for the legislature to handle.
3. Background (history)
The TxDMV first adopted a policy regarding Dune Buggies not being
eligible for Texas title in 2013 and published this policy on May 5, 2014. Any
applications for title for a Dune Buggy on or after this date are rejected and
any titles issued in error after this date are revoked. Dune buggy titles
issued prior to May 5, 2014, remain valid; however, they will not be issued a
subsequent title for any new purchasers. This decision was made in accordance
with Transportation Code, Section 502.048, which grants the authority to refuse
registration to any vehicle deemed unsafe (emphasis added). Any vehicle not
eligible for registration, unless otherwise specifically specified, is not
eligible for a Texas title.
According to department staff, they came to the conclusion that
Dune Buggies were unsafe for on-road operation based on a number of factors and
the experience of staff having reviewed numerous such vehicles over many years.
Staff at the TxDMV claim that they review each vehicle individually and do not
compare one type of vehicle to another, further claiming their observation has
been that these vehicles (stripped down, kits, or otherwise) are often lacking
basic, visually verifiable safety components such as windshields, wipers, or
their entire body. On more than one occasion, TxDMV staff claim they have seen
plastic water tanks used as the fuel cell. In an effort to limit some of the
subjectivity, Dune Buggies were deemed unsafe.
Subsequently, the TxDMV Board adopted Texas Administrative Rule on
March 6, 2015, which prohibited Dune Buggies from being eligible for title.
This is located in Texas Administrative Rule 217.3 (6) and reads (in part):
(6) Not Eligible for Title. The following are not eligible for a Texas title
regardless of the vehicle’s previous title and/or registration in this or any
other jurisdiction.(B) Vehicles designed or determined by the
department to be a dune buggy;
In 8 months of participating in working groups with the TxDMV
staff and other interested parties, private citizens working as a group called
the Assembled Vehicle Coalition of Texas (AVCT) pointed out the flaws in
staff’s decisions in the types of vehicles staff illustrated as “not
safe”. TxDMV staff displayed vehicles that have been built from various
vehicles parts from junk yards (some vehicles built with 2×4 boards in one case
and an actual coffin with four wheels and a motor in another case). The
ACVT pointed out that Dune Buggies and Kitcars are not built from various
pieces from junk yards, 2×4 lumber, or coffins or any other junk vehicle part
but are legitimate, designed and well-known vehicles provided by Kitcar
companies located in Texas and around the United States and among Dune Buggy
enthusiasts all over the nation. Legitimate Kitcars and Dune Buggies use
Federal Motor Safety Vehicle Standard parts and pass certified ASE inspection accordingly.
As a point of reference, a Dune Buggy is a well-recognized vehicle that has
been a part of the American fabric of hobbyist vehicles since 1965 (the first
dune buggy was created by Bruce Meyers) and Dune Buggies have even been
previously featured for sale in Sears catalogs.
The TxDMV referred to vehicles not built by a known manufacturer
(Ford, GM, Toyota, etc.) as “frankencars” and have deemed them unsafe, with the
thought that these vehicles are made of vehicle parts shopped from junk
yards. This is far from the truth. The members of the AVCT pointed
out that there are already definitions of Assembled Vehicles and inspection
forms for assembled vehicles promulgated by the TxDMV and these Assembled
Vehicles do pass certified inspectors and are insured by major vehicle
and “Street Rods” are defined in Texas Transportation Code § 504.501 and are
closely related in description of an Assemble Vehicle found in the TxDMV
And when reading
these definition of an Assembled Vehicle it is obvious to the reader that these
definitions comport to the description of a Dune Buggy and kit car describing
(iii) assembled from a kit even if a Manufacturer’s
Certificate of Origin or Manufacturer’s Statement of Origin is provided
is passed TxDMV staff would develop rules governing the new statutes on
are the mechanics (how is this different from current law)?
The proposed legislation simply creates a new section of the
Transportation Code dedicated to Assembled Vehicles and clarifies what is an
Assembled Vehicle, the definition of what a Hobbyist is and what a Hobbyist is
not, clarifies the definition of an ASE (American Service Excellence) certified
vehicle inspector/technician and provides language regarding the method for
titles and registration with the appropriate fees. The inspection, title,
registration and fee process for Assembled Vehicles aligns with current law for
motor vehicles as defined in law so as not to provide any special
considerations in the importance of inspection, title, registration and
appropriate fees for those Assembled Vehicles.
It was acknowledged by TxDMV board members at the August 16, 2018
board meeting that when the Texas Legislature created statutes governing motor
vehicles it did so in the knowledge of regulating well-known manufacturers of
vehicles. It was further acknowledged that Kitcars or Dune Buggies were
not contemplated in the early creation of the Code. The board also
acknowledged that among the 27 million or more vehicles on the road today
Kitcars and Dune Buggies are a minute segment of the motor vehicle being driven
on Texas streets and roadways, and even these Assembled Vehicles are “fair
weather” vehicles not intended to be “every day” vehicles
No statistics are
known or provided when requested regarding concerns communicated by TxDMV
Broader goals and messages?
In recent years,
federal law has recognized the Kitcar industry by passing H.R. 22 by Rep.
Green, D-Texas that allows companies to manufacture kit cars at a low volume
rate; the Kitcar companies can manufacture no more than 350 per year nationally
not more than 5,000 world-wide.
message is that these types of vehicles, be they Dune Buggies or Kitcars, are a
recognized and familiar vehicle in the United States and Texas statute should
reflect this reality and provide language regarding the proper regulation of
the vehicles for operation on Texas streets and roadways. Currently, 31
other states recognize these vehicles and have laws and policies governing
their assemblage, inspection, title, registration and appropriate fees.
With the ability of these inspected Assembled Vehicles to legally
operate on Texas streets and roadways the fiscal impact to the state will be as
follows: more revenue will be collected from title and registration fees
and license plates from assembled vehicles; parts for these assembled vehicles
from legitimate parts suppliers will continue to be sold; tax revenues from
additional gasoline sales for the vehicles will increase; some expected revenue
increases in hotel occupancy taxes and sales and beverage taxes will occur in
hotels and restaurants as these hobbyists tend to form clubs and have rallies
in Texas towns and cities on weekends at certain times of the year to meet and
enjoy the camaraderie that goes with these clubs; more insurance policies will
be sold by insurance companies that provide policies for Assembled Vehicles;
additional jobs created from Kitcar companies that choose to provide kits to
Kitcar and Dune Buggy enthusiasts.
would provide clarity to the Transportation Code regarding a certain type of
vehicle that exists and is deemed safe and reliable for operation on Texas
streets and roadways.
Stakeholders/Support/Opposition (Who is or is not impacted)?
will come from thousands of Texas private citizens who own kit cars and dune
buggies who are, in many cases, not able to operate their vehicle on Texas
streets and roadways as they have in the past. Strong support will come
from the vehicle parts suppliers both in Texas and around the nation that will
have an increase in this specific market segment to sell quality vehicle parts
to the enthusiasts. The Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA, www.sema.org) will strongly support the
came from TxDMV staff, however, the TxDMV board rejected a proposed rule
seeking to clarify this issue and board members requested this matter be in the
hands of the Texas Legislature.
Lastly, the representative for the Assembled Vehicle Coalition of Texas specifically asked TxDMV staff if there are groups or individuals opposing assembled vehicles; if there are crash or inspection statistics supporting their claim that these vehicles are deemed unsafe; if any outside individual or group filed or otherwise voiced any complaints of Assembled Vehicles – the answer was negative that any of the above mentioned complaints were made. The Texas Association of Automobile Dealers has signaled their opposition to the bill before it was filed or reviewed.
Tom donated a few of his custom made windscreens called “The Difference” that fit perfectly in a Manx Rollbar. We have Yellow, Red, and a Green available for a $100.00 donation. If you would like to make one of the beautiful as well as useful windscreens yours, please donate $100.00 to the PayPal account. Don’t forget to give us the color you want & your address in the notes section.
We have a bunch of the Ole Red Save the Texas Dune Buggy stickers that are about 6″ in diameter available & they would look great on your trailer or Daily Driver! One can be yours for a $10.00 donation. ALL Profits go to cover the costs for our cause. (Ron, our Lobbyist needs to get paid & to purchase new items to sell.) You can pay by Paypal. Again, we need to know your address.
We have some really nice Black “Trucker” Hats available for a $35.00 Donation each! All Hats are Adjustable, Black with Black mesh in the back. You can choose the color Graphic that you would like on the front. We have Blue Graphics, Red Graphics, Lime Green Graphics, & White Graphics on them. If you would like to make one yours please make a donation to our PayPal Account. Make sure that you let us know what color Graphic you would like & your address.
As many of you know HB-1755 is the bill that House Representative Ed Thompson has introduced to help correct Administrative 217.3. You may also know that Texas Legislation is currently in session and that the next step in the process is for our bill to be heard by the House Transportation Committee. At that time public testimony is almost always solicited on bills; allowing citizens the opportunity to present arguments on different sides of an issue. When a House Committee holds a public hearing during a legislative session they must post a notice of 5 days before the hearing. What that means to you and I is that we will get 5 calendar days to plan to be at the hearing where bill HB 1755 is read for the first time. If you want to join us, you had better get your Sunday go to Meeting clothes ready now. (I will wear a Suit & Tie) The House Transportation Committee consists of 13 Members. Below I have listed all of the Members on that Committee, the District they are in & the Counties they represent. We are not limiting people from joining us, but it would be nice to have people that they represent in attendance. It is not prudent to have a ton of people talk as time is limited, but we will decide who fits our narrative best when we get a list of people who can attend the hearing when it is scheduled. Texas House of Representatives Transportation Committee. Chair – Terry Canales (Democrat) – District 40 – Hidalgo (Part) Vise Chair – Brooks Landgraf (Republican) – District 81 – Andrews, Winkler, Ector Diego Bernal (Democrat) – District 123 – Bexar Yvonne Davis (Democrat) – District 111 – Dallas (Part) Craig Goldman (Republican) – District 97 – Tarrant (Part) Cole Hefner (Republican) – District 5 – Camp, Morris, Rains, Smith (Part), Titus, Wood Matt Krause (Republican) – District 93 – Tarrant (Part) Ben Leman (Republican) – District 13 – Austin, Burlson, Colorado, Fayette, Grimes, Lavaca, Washington Armando Martinez (Democrat) – District 39 – Hidalgo (Part) Evelina “Lina” Ortega (Democrat) – District 77 – El Paso John Raney (Republican) – District – 14 – Brazos Shawn Thierry (Democrat) – District 146 – Harris (Part) Ed Thompson (Republican) – District 29 – Brazoria In addition, if you live in any of the above districts please email me your Name, City/County you live in & your Phone Number so that we can compile a list for each where they have constituents living in their specific District.
Today we took a little trip up to Austin to sit in on the Senate
Transportation Committee Hearing. They never once mentioned Save the
Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail & Kitcar, or The Assembled Vehicles
Coalition. That’s okay, as we didn’t expect them to at this point. But
they did see us in the room, and it looked like a couple of people had a
pretty good idea who we were.
Kuntz & Brewster were both in attendance & even spoke a little, but again it had nothing to do with our issue.
We may not have heard anything to do with bill HB-1755, but we did hear a couple of VERY interesting statements.
One Executive for TxDOT spoke of the dangers & even deaths due to
situations like Impaired Driving, Distracted Driving, Driver
inattention, Following too Close, Disregarding a Stop Sign or Signal
Light, & Speeding. But never once did he make mention of a Dune
Buggy, Sandrail, Kitcar, or ANY specific Vehicle for that matter as
We also heard the Executive Director of TxDOT
talk about how a SEATBELT is so important in regards to the SAFETY of a
vehicle. He went on and on about how a SEATBELT was the most important
SAFETY device that is employed on a vehicle & NEVER once did he
mention anything about how an airbag helped in regards to the safety of a
That being said…… Keep in mind that the TxDMV,
TADA, and others are reading what you write. Does the Dune Buggy,
Sandrail, or Kitcar that you want to legally Title/Register in Texas
have proper Seatbelts in it? As for me, I don’t even have a Rolling
Chassis at the moment. But I have a set of 4 point Seatbelts that I plan
to install when this is all over.
What we as a collective group are trying to accomplish, is an attempt at a “Grassroots Movement”. The reason that we have seen such success to this point, is that as a group we have worked together to reach a common goal & we will continue to see the same success if we follow the same path. This was the first month in a long time that I did not have to worry if we were going to be able to raise the monthly goal to pay the Lobbyist who has been able to get us this far! For me to singularly say Thank You, is simply not enough. We have to understand that when I say Thank You, the reality is that is a Thank You to one another in our “Grassroots Effort”, for your work, for your continued donations. By definition, a “Grassroots Movement” is when a group of people come together via a district/region, or common interest to correct the negative effects of an economic or even political movement. “Grassroots Movements” use a call to action (if you will) in an effort to invoke a change to local, regional, or even a national level. It is understood that it feels like we have been sitting on our hands for a while, but I feel that is about to change. We just have to wait for the right time, as there is a VERY fine line between being productive & being a pest. So again, THANK YOU for your continued support, and continued donations. February’s monthly goal has been sent off, now its time to start worrying about the Monthly goal for March! Again, Thank You!
I have seen this before & thought I should post this… Well Here I
am posting it. It is a link to the House of Representatives website
explaining how a bill gets passed on the side of the House. It is a
long read, but well worth the time.
This is the moment, that we have all been waiting for! Our bill has been introduced by Representative Ed Thompson of House District 29. The bill number is 86 (R) HB1755 , just click the link and you will be able to read it. Rep. Thompson is VERY enthusiastic about our bill, especially after reading some of the transcripts of the Board Meeting that we have attended. We are still in talks with a couple of Senate Members, but we haven’t narrowed it down to just one member to introduce our bill to the Texas State Senate as of the close of business today!
I just spoke to Ron & he gave me an update. We understand that it seems that things are moving along at a snails pace, and I assure you that they are. But Ron does not seem worried, as this is all perfectly normal. SIGH!
Our bill is in the final stages of draft and we should be getting the final copy soon. Once we finally receive a copy, our team will go over it with a fine tooth comb, in order to make sure that the bill has the correct language to accomplish our collective goal.
The first day for bills to get scheduled for hearings in committees will be February 19th. However, that does not necessarily mean our bill will be heard that day. Ron & the author of our bill will be requesting that the Committee Chairman schedule for our hearing ASAP. It sure as heck feels like we are behind the 8 Ball, but we are tracking along nicely as I understand it.
For those of you who would like to attend the Committee Hearing, the Committee will post the schedule for the bills to be heard… Soon. We should get between 3 to 5 days notice so that we can make arrangements to attend. Hopefully, that will give everyone ample time to plan & travel if needed. As of this moment, that’s about all we have on the specifics of what is happening with our bill. As per normal, I will post an update as we learn of them.
It has been a pretty active day for us at the Texas State Capitol, as we have a little more news regarding Save the Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail & Kitcar. We have confirmation as to who it is that is trying to rid Texas roads from Dune Buggies, Sandrails & Kitcars. The lobbyist for TADA (Texas Automobile Dealers Association) spoke with Ron (our lobbyist) at the Capitol & told him TADA is opposing our bill. Even though the bill has not been filed & they have not had the opportunity to read a word of it.
“The Texas Automobile Dealers Association (TADA) is the statewide trade association representing over 1,300 franchised automobile dealerships in nearly 300 communities throughout the state of Texas.TADA advocates on behalf of the dealers at the Texas Legislature, Congress, and all regulatory agencies.”
For those of you who do not know General Counsel for TADA has been involved with this issue from the start, yet they have been VERY Closed lipped at EVERY MEETING!
When discussions on the safety of our cars was brought up, and we asked how a Dune Buggy, Sandrail or Kitcar was less Safe then a Motorcycle. Tada had nothing to say.
When we asked why the TxDMV felt that a Assembled Vehicle was less safe than that of a Motorcycle, Hot Rod, Rat Rod, etc., and the TxDMV responded with “Those vehicles are in a different catagory”. TADA had nothing to say. When we asked the TxDMV for data to PROVE that our Vehicles were unsafe. TADA had nothing to say.
When we showed the TxDMV that NHTSA had written a letter talking about how an Assembled Vehicle was not governed by the Federal Government, & that it was up to the individual State to regulate them. TADA had nothing to say.
When we showed Graphics of how other categories of vehicles modified their chassis in much the same way as a person did for an Original Dune Buggy, and the TxDMV only said that those vehicles were in a different category. TADA had nothing to say.
When Jeremiah Kuntz, the Director of the Vehicle Titles & Registration Division for the TxDMV directly asked TADA General Counsel what they had to say about the 3 Working Group Meetings that were set up by the TxDMV Board of Directors. TADA had nothing to say.
Of all the time and money that has been spent thus far during both Working Group Meetings as well as TxDMV Board Meetings that TADA has been DIRECTLY INVOLVED in. TADA has had nothing to say.
Fast forward to today when their lobbyist told ours, that TADA will be opposing our bill BEFORE they have even had a chance to read it. Stating that they are doing so because they heard they were unsafe automobiles. This is 100% disgusting, Friends!
Folks, we now have absolute confirmation who our enemy is! At the right time we will need EVERYONE to call their legislator and give them the facts. They need to hear from US the Builders & Owners what the facts are in regards to our vehicles, and NOT the distorted arguments that TADA will give.
Monday, January 21st, 2019, Ron our Lobbyist, gave us an update. He said that the Newly appointed Texas State Senate Transportation Committee for the 86th Legislative session was announced. That is good news as it means that they will finally get things underway, we hope.
Chair: Sen. Robert Nichols, Jacksonville Vice Chair: Sen. Kelly Hancock, R-North Richland Hills Members: Sen. Carol Alvarado, D-Houston Sen. Juan Hinojosa, D- Edinburg Sen. Lois W. Kolkhorst, R-Brenham Sen. Charles Perry, R-Lubbock Sen. José R. Rodríguez, D-El Paso Sen. Charles Schwertner, R- Georgetown Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas
As of the time that I am writing this, our bill is being rewritten by attorneys, once they have put everything into the “legal language”, it will be presented to us in order to look over and make any corrections we feel might be necessary. We will post when this happens.
After the attorneys have done their due diligence Texas State Senator Ed Thompson (R) District 29 will present our bill to the Texas State House Transportation Committee.
After the House Transportation Committee, the bill will be presented to the Texas State Senate Transportation Committee. Once both the House & Senate Transportation Committees have passed our bill. It will be presented to both the House as well as the Senate Floor for Debate.
At this point, you are probably asking yourself what you can be doing while this LONG process takes place.
Most importantly, you can follow along on the “Save the Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail, & Kitcar Facebook page.
Be prepared to attend any meetings that we ask you to attend. (On the Save the Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail, & Kitcar Facebook Page.) So get those dress clothes to the cleaners in order to be prepared, we HAVE GOT TO HAVE LARGER NUMBERS show up to the meetings we ask you to attend than we have in the past. Remember there is strength in numbers.
It is understood that it feels a lot like we are asking everyone to sit on our hands, seeing how we were all so individually active a few months back. But sending letters & making calls at this time very well could do more harm than good at this point. As each Legislator is getting bombarded and their time is very limited right now. What we need to do is let Ron (Our Lobbyist) do the job we are paying him for. I have been with him in Downtown Austin on more than one occasion, it seems everyone who walks around downtown Austin, knows who Ron is & knows who he represents. It’s pretty close to being with a Rock Star. LOL
Lastly, we NEED YOUR continued donations! Please keep in mind that all proceeds go to fund the fight & we can not do this without your donations. If you would like to make a donation, please donate to our PayPal Account.
Someone was asking if we were still selling T-Shirts, Hats & Stickers. Yes, Yes we are! We still have T-Shirts in all sizes ($35.00), Black hats with White, Red, Blue or Green Graphics ($35.00) & 6″ Stickers available($10.00). If you would like to donate in order to receive one of the items below. Please pay via PayPal
Also please make sure that you tell us the SIZE SHIRT or color graphics that you would like on the Hat, make sure you include your address. Please note that all profits go to help support OUR Cause & because it is December we are running low on funds! THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
I spoke to Ron (Our Lobbyist) and he said that it is NOT a good idea to start a letter-writing campaign at the moment. The Elections are just around the corner, next Tuesday, November 6th to be exact. (So get out and vote!) Soon after the elections, we will get back to work writing letters that will help our cause move forward.
If you have been a member for very long, you know that the waiting game is darn near painful for me. LOL However, we do need to do some fundraising in order to keep this ball rolling. ALL FUNDS raised go directly to the cause!!! Please expect to see a few items up for sale later today! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
On a side note, if you live or vote in the Texas State 22nd Congressional District, please email me at email@example.com I will explain more in a reply email!
Successful! That is how we all should look at the Save the Texas Dune Buggy Rally held on the South Lawn of the Texas State Capitol Building, October 25, 2018. The Rally to help build support for Save the Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail, & Kitcar was successful indeed! We had people from all over the country that took time to show support! We are all grateful to each!
It was interesting to see so many people walk by to see what we were doing, & we know that our Rally got a lot of attention. We truly feel that the Rally reached far more people than what we know, important people. The fact that Empower Texans posted an article about our Rally is huge, as that article went out to people that will have an opportunity to vote on our Bill. Empower Texans is a Conservative Watchdog Group that is very close to Gov. Abbott & Lt. Gov. Patrick & many other very Conservative Legislators. The Rally was ANOTHER Huge step towards the Success of Save the Texas Dune Buggy, Sandrail, & Kitcar!
In the past, we had worried about the TxDMV being able to read what was written in this group. We did so because, during the Working Groups, they used our words against us at times. In fact, the talks about ways to get around the rules seemed to push Kuntz to put up more roadblocks. However, in this process, we are no longer worried about the TxDMV. We have moved beyond them, and are now working with their “Boss” if you will. I say all of that to get to my point, I have opened the group so that posts are easier to share. The problem with that, EVERYONE has to THINK before they post! Please be reasonable with your posts, and if we feel your post is offensive. It will be deleted. We haven’t had much of a problem in the past, but the group was not this big. Please be kind, if you notice there is only one Admin on this page. LOL
Good Morning! It is time that I take a moment to write another Really Long informative post as I have been getting a few questions about the upcoming Rally on October 25th, 2018.
The Host Hotel will be the Hilton Garden Inn, that is about a 15 to 20-minute drive to the Capitol Building. We reserved 20 rooms for the event, and if you mention that you are with the Save the Texas Dune Buggy Group the room will be $129.00 per night plus tax. They have a nice lobby with a bar where we can all get together and hang out. They also have a nice outside area if the weather is nice. A lot of people have committed to showing up Wednesday the 24th. Some will leave Thursday the 25th after the Rally, but we will have an event planned for all the way through Saturday Evening! (We will post the schedule once everything is fully planned.) As for parking at the hotel, I was told that the front portion would be reserved for us. However, I am not holding my breath that is 100% true, as the Sales-Manager was not happy agreeing to that. There is parking for those of you who have trailers, but as with anything NOTHNG is guaranteed. We did the best we could. There are other hotels in the General area, we will get info on them as well.
Hilton Garden Inn
7610 John Glenn Way
Austin, Texas 78741
On the 25th we will hold the Rally on the Texas State Capitol Lawn in Austin. The reason for doing the Rally will be to invite Legislators to learn more about Dune Buggies, Sandrails, & Kitcars & why they should not be banned from LEGAL Title & Registration in Texas, or any state for that matter. The Rally will start promptly at 10:00 A.M. and will end at 11:00AM. There will be a list of speakers, but the people most of us really want to see is Bruce & Winnie Meyers.
Texas State Capitol
1100 Congress Ave.
Austin, Texas 78701
It is unfortunate, but the State Preservation Board does not allow for vehicles to be parked in the area where the Rally will take place. However, we can pay to have the State put a bag over the Parking Meters. There are 24 Parking Meters on the South Side of the Capitol Building (That would be considered the front to me) & 50 along the West Side. If you would like one of these spaces, we are going to have to ask that you cover the $15.00 for the day fee the State will charge us. Please let us know ASAP so that we can reserve them. We will also ask that you be open to letting people sit in your vehicle and give Legislators rides if they ask. However, it is your vehicle do what makes you comfortable. IF you do give a Legislator a ride, it is 100% imperative that you obey ALL TRAFFIC LAWS.
There is a large Parking Garage to the East side of the Capitol Building. We are not 100% sure that it is possible to pull a trailer in there, we will be doing a lot of scouting around Austin Wednesday & will let you know Thursday morning.
If you come here from out of state and your vehicle is Titled/Registered in a state other than Texas. You are perfectly legal, and should not have a problem with the law, unless you act a fool and break our traffic laws.
If you are a Texas Resident and are Grandfathered in, you should be safe. If you are a Texas Resident and you are not 100% legal, you are subject to a little trouble. Possibly, but who knows for sure! There is no way to know what will, or could happen & we will not & cannot tell you what you should or shouldn’t do. Basically, you have 3 options. 1. Be ultra-bold and drive your Vehicle to the event knowing that you are in fact taking a risk. 2. Bring your Vehicle on a trailer and pull your vehicle off to put it in a Parking Place. Or finally 3. Leave your Buggy on the trailer showing Legislators the Strong Statement that vehicles from other states are here to support our cause & are perfectly legal & able to enjoy freedoms in their home state. While the State of Texas is reducing the freedoms of its citizens.
The Rally itself will be held the morning of October the 25th, and we will schedule fun for the rest of the day. But that is not where the fun will end. We will have fun scheduled for the Friday 26th, as well as Saturday the 27th. The schedule is not complete as of right now, we will post up the full schedule as soon as everything is finalized.
Time to bring this to a close. The Rally to be held Thursday October 25th is very important to our cause. As Texans we should be THANKFUL that people have already committed to joining us at the Rally from out of state. Listen up Texans, this has the most immediate effect on you as a Assembled Vehicle Owner, PLEASE take the time to join us at the RALLY! We cannot stress enough that it is REALLY IMPORTANT that we have a large crowd in attendance!
We just finished up the application to the Texas State Preservation Board asking for permission to use the South Steps of the Capitol Grounds. The event will be held in late October, and we will need HIGH Attendance in order to make it worth our while. This will be a 3 day event and we will do all we can to make it worth the effort of driving in for the event. As soon as the Preservation Board gives us the okay I will post up the Schedule. I am sorry this is all the information we can give you at this time!
Over all, I would say that today was a great success! A great success in that we were able to see that Legislators are visibly confused as to why the TxDMV passed an Administrative Rule that keeps so many of our Dune Buggies, Sandrails, & Kitcars off the road. We now have even more Legislators on our side! It was interesting to see Legislators ask questions about Save the Texas Dune Buggy before we got to the open forum to speak. That means that Ron, our Lobbyist has been able to get them to see just how ridicules this issue is, as well as tells us that our letters are in fact making an impact that we need to push forward with.
I think that one of the most interesting things I witnessed during todays Sunset Commission Meeting, was watching the TxDMV on Defense after seeing them act so smug for so long.
Lonny Doyle who owns DF Kitcar spoke about how he lives here in Texas and is losing multiple sales because of Administrative Rule 217.3. Although they are able to sell kits anywhere in the US, they are in Texas and cannot sell to people in their home state, heck they can’t even let them take a test drive. This helps the TxDMV see that this has a larger economic impact than what can be seen on the surface. Justin spoke about how he had the DF Kitcar he built Titled/Registered for 33 months when he got his letter to revoke. When I spoke I talked about how people from all over the nation, as well as other hobbyist groups were keeping a close eye on how this all plays out, as we all fear that this is just the beginning. I also spoke to the fact that our Member Caleb was at a carshow in Colorado and overheard a guy talking about how he had just picked up a Buggy that someone sold in Texas for next to nothing. I mentioned that when I moved back to Texas from New Mexico my Buggy was Titled/Registered, and that all changed when I tried to get my Buggy Title/Registered in Texas. You could see the concern and disgust on all their faces; I look forward to hearing where things go from here with regards to the TxDMV and the Sunset Commission.
I am not sure when but the State will post up a recording of todays meeting at https://www.sunset.texas.gov/meetings
no After we spoke our Lobbyist Ron had set up a meeting between Governor Abbotts Policy Advisor, Justin, Ron, DF Kitcar Owners Lonny & Adam, and me. He mentioned that there had been an influx of new Letters that had started to roll in this week, and that he is the guy tasked with reading them all. He then looked at me and said that he can’t help but think that was by design. I smiled and said that he should expect more! SO DO YOURSELVES AS WELL AS EVERYOTHER DUNE BUGGY, SANDRAIL, & KITCAR OWNER A FAVOR AND KEEP WRITING THOSE LETTERS! They are working! He said that he felt the Rule was out of line & that he was on our side! He feels that we will get this turned around; he just had no definitive answer as to how long it will take.
Okay time for me to bring this to an end… FINALLY! I am REALLY going to start pushing for two things! 1. We all need to write more Letters, I will post to the details as we go along. I watched it FIRST HAND in todays meeting that our Letter writing DOES IN FACT HAVE A LARGE IMPACT! 2. We really need to work on the Donations, as Ron (Our Lobbyist) has done some amazing things for us. But that does come at a price; he needs to eat as well. As soon as I can pull it all together I am going to post and expenditure report so everyone can see where their donations are being spent. Last, but not least Thank you for staying involved with all of this. I know we have been working on it for a long time, but I assure you there is light at the end of the tunnel now!
Texas State Rep. Stickland of District 92, sent a letter to Whitney Brewster, Executive Director of the TxDMV. Rep. Stickland mentions that he has personally reviewed all of our recommendations and is in full agreement. He asked that she make the Necessary changes so that our personal freedoms and liberties are not infringed upon. I have permission from Rep. Stickland to attach a copy of the letter that he sent to Ms. Brewster.
For those of you who live in District 92, please remember State Representative, Johnathan Stickland when it comes time to vote in your area!